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Cpp

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Cpp is doing well so far

Jul 24, 2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Odin
Actually, it's just my way of complaining that Overlord came out with a dumb idea and people are licking it up simply because he's Overlord. If it's such a good idea, how come we haven't seen it in other levels, or other games? Sure, there's been sections of levels that are completely black, but I've never seen a multiplayer map or level in any game that's completely black. It doesn't work.
For the record, I never said it is a good idea. I said it was an experiment, which is the large part of the reason why I decided to make a JCF thread about it instead of uploading it directly to J2O. The fact/myth that people like my work just because I'm Overlord is something I would rather not think about ...and I do not ask for it. Surely making a new completely black multiplayer level would likely be a dumb idea, but thats not the point.

The idea behind this was to make an invisible map with a known layout (which is exactly why I chose to convert the battle levels instead of making my own, since battle levels (primarily B1) are some of the most overplayed and well known levels in jj2). It's not about how well you can master it, but rather how well you can master it without seeing it while still knowing your way around.

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Originally Posted by Odin
Because I thought I could let your mind think about the disadvantages of having a completely black level.

Think about it in the eyes of a new person, who's barely played Battle 1. Now he's playing Battle 1 Blackout. He doesn't have the layout memorized. It's impossible for him to maneuver because he doesn't understand where anything is. It's much harder to learn the layout of Battle 1 Blackout when you haven't played the original, simply because you have to imagine the layout in your head as well as memorize it.
The audince that these levels are meant for are mostly people who do have the battle levels memorized well. This is also part of the reason why I chose to introduce the idea at a place where the former is true for the majority. Besides, I don't understand why you express such concern about new players. Whenever I upload a level doesn't mean it has to be hosted on evey server for 24/7. People aren't obligated to play it and if they dislike the blackout levels they can always leave the server and host their own visible battle levels. And to be honest, I don't think I've heard of an online jj2 player who hasn't played Battle1 before.

~Ol
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